Harvest Havoc

[Chris Marquart]

Harvest Havoc, Presented by MGM Slider Drive Shafts and Derby Products
Sept. 30, 2010
Pics due 11:59 est September 30

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MGM Slider Shafts Team Derby, Presented by Derby Tees.com
3 full size cars, any make, model or year

Bulletproof (Outlaws) Trucks
Compacts, Presented by Ebay
Peter Koch Chrysler Dodge Jeep Enduros

[Chris Marquart]

SCORING

Below you will find the scoring breakdown used for this event. I'm putting it out there so there should be no confusion, and any questions one may have can be presented in a timely manner.

Team proceedure (3 car teams): Each car will be scored unto itself, whether all entered by one person, two people or three people. A cumulative score will be prodcued by adding the three cars together, subsequently naming the 'winning team.'


Single car full size, enduro, truck and compact proceedure: Each car will be scored unto itself, whether it is a solo or group build, and scored with the procees listed below.

Furthermore, At events with 'team divisions' solo classes do not count toward team scoring unless otherwise noted. However, there is consideration given in 'creativity' and 'presentation' categories if the cars and trucks match a 'team' theme shared by the team entries.

While most categories end with 1 as lowest, it is doubtful yet still within reason that 0 points could be awarded in a given category. A 'Zero' total could be given if the car does not comply with the aforementioned rules in a given field.

Drivetrain (Engine/transmission/rear end) (25 possible points)
Engine 1 2 3 4 5
Transmission 1 2 3 4 5
Rear end 1 2 3 4 5
Driveline 1 2 3 4 5
Add-ons 1 2 3 4 5

*Engine includes creativity in selection/conversion (i.e. using a 283 to build sbc 350), paint, weathering, wired/plumbed, cradles
*Transmission includes paint, weathering, shifter, pedals, reinforcements, how it fits in the pan
*Driveline includes realism, paint, creativity, use of slider shafts
*Selection/build measures quality of build, creative selection
*Add-ons includes dist. protector, msd box, kickers to fire wall, stacks, chained rear end

Body (20 possible points)
Build quality 1 2 3 4 5
Damage 1 2 3 4 5
Bumpers 1 2 3 4 5
Paint 1 2 3 4 5

*Build quality includes foiling, foil-taping, rust effects and holes left from 'moldings,' angle iron to hold hood down (or other tie-downs), window kickers
*Damage measures realism of damage, including scratches, paint smudges and scrapes with metal showing through
*Bumpers measures bumpers, shocks and modifications, creativity in selection and application
*Paint measures presentation only, and does not include rust effects or mudding.

Interior (20 possible points)
Wired/toggles 1 2 3 4 5
Cage 1 2 3 4 5
Fuel/Battery box 1 2 3 4 5
Floor/door detail 1 2 3 4 5

*Wired/Toggles takes into consideration wire guage, clean wiring, use or wire or thread, use of a toggle box with fuel shut off (electric pumps), ignition and spark switches
*Cage takes into account portions of the frame from the firewall to the core support if scratch-build, i.e. kickers.
*Fuel/Battery box includes wiring, fuel pump and box, cell tie-down/securing measures and plumbing all the way to the engine
*Detail includes in-car shifter, and points taken away for unpainted parts; also includes in-car cooling systems for trans oil, engine oil or coolant.

Underbody (20 possible points)
Frame 1 2 3 4 5
Suspension 1 2 3 4 5
Body mounts 1 2 3 4 5
Details 1 2 3 4 5

*Frame includes scratch building whole frames, modifying subframes, scratch-building front clips, bumper shock mounts, core support reinforcements, cross members and frame weathering.
*Suspension includes leaf conversions, control arms
*Body mounts includes plating/frame reinforcing, replacement and use of allthread/bolts
*Details includes brake lines, rust, fuel cell deleted from pan

Presentation (10 possible points)
Realistic setting 0 1 2
Effective use of mud 0 1 2
Use of a trailer 0 1 2
Effective in reality 1 2 3 4

*Reality measures percieved effectiveness of car if it were real, and in a given competition.
*A few extra points will be given in 'Realistic Setting' and 'Use of a Trailer' if a car is submitted 'in scene,' either with other derby cars in a diorama-type setting, or on a trailer with a tow truck or flat bed...

Creativity (5 possible points)
Use of materials 1 2 3 4 5

Final score (100 possible points)

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All Classes

FUEL TANK: If gas tank is above and/or in front of rear-end may remain in stock position. If gas tank is behind rear axle it must be moved to the inside is using stock tank, or may remain if punctured and auxilary tank is inside the car. Must have a kill switch if it is an electric fuel pump.

EXTERIOR: All glass (including windshield) must be removed. All chrome moldings, outside mirrors, head/tail light lenses, plastic trim, trailer hitches, fiberglass mount panels must be removed. Carpet, rear seat cushions, headliner door panels (may keep driver door panel) must be removed. Remove airbags.

ELECTRICAL: Battery(ies) - up to two - may be relocated to front passenger floor, secured to floor and covered with a rubber mat. Solenoids, computers may be relocated.

IGNITION SWITCH: (Hot Wiring) Complete ignition switch may be relocated and/or altered should provide key or toggle switch and are used within 16 inches of steering wheel .

FAN BLADE: Clutch with shroud, electric fan or no fan at all. NO SOLID FANS.

COOLING SYSTEM: Maybe bypassed, All antifreeze must be removed. Water only. Cooling systems for oil, transmission and water can be moved inside car.


***FULL SIZE DERBY***
Cars allowed
Any (American or Foreign) hardtop, coupe, station wagon or sedan
EXHAUST: You may run stacks.

STEERING: You may u-joint the steering column.

WHEEL OPENINGS: May be cut and folded back, with 4 bolts max per opening

BUMPERS/SUSPENSION; Shocks and brackets maybe welded. May interchange car bumpers. May use 2 chains from each bumper to frame to keep it from falling off. If chained to hood it will be considered 2 off the 4 mounting areas of holding hood shut.

REAR-END: May be welded and leafed with rear end swaps and slifer shafts allowed.

DRIVER COMPARTMENT: Perimeter cages encouraged with dash bar and seat bar, door bars and tubes to THE FLOOR - not the frame. Down tubes and kickers to the core support allowed. Maybe welded in. A rollover bar is allowed but must be off seat or door brace, nothing to floor. Windshield brace or hood catchers are allowed. Seat brace must be against seat, side brace no longer than it takes to hold up seat brace. Bars must be on inside of car, excluding halo or rollover bars.

TRANSMISSION: Mount maybe reinforced. Floor shifters allowed.

ENGINE/MOTOR MOUNTS: Engine may be secured to frame. Engine may be of any make. Distributor protector allowed. Cradels allowed.

DOORS: May weld all doors

HOOD: After inspection, hood may be secured down in 4 positions using chain, wire, seatbelts, cable, angle iron, bolts. Two front bolts may run down through core support into the core mounts. Must have one or two holes 12 inches for fire reasons. Stack holes ok. Core support may also be ratchet-strapped. Chaining of the bumper with chain routed through the hood will count as two of the four hood tie-down positions.

TRUNK/TAILGATE; Maybe secured by welding, or using chain, wire, seatbelts, cable or bolts. Folding, cutting, tucking, wedging, V-creasing is allowed. Station wagons may be sedagoned.

TIRES: 2-4-6-8 ply. Dot. Car or Truck tires allowed, along with small implement tires (diggers), heavy-treads and bias ply narrow treads. No wheel weights, or studs on drive wheels. You may seal rim to tire bead, run bead locks and run deflectors on the valve stem. Tubes allowed. No split rims

FRAME: You may notch frame or bend the frame. Two extra body/floor to frame bolts. The top frame seam in front of firewall may be rewelded. Imperial and GM sub swaps allowed.


... Same rules apply to compacts

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TRACK CONDITIONS

For those of you looking for direction in the mud category, here's a few tips to help you pinpoint the mud details...

Track: Feature-type Wetness (mid-dryness to tacky; good rooster tails, fast drying and gritty particles versus soupy mud). It would be a gritty clay-based surface with a small amount of stonedust (Black Beauty-type cinder) mixed in.

When wet, the clay is a distinct brown shade with bright crimson undertones.

When dry, the clay turns ashy; a light tan with flecks of black and gray from the stone dust.

The clay in the feature would stick to the cars in a thin gritty spray, but only cars stuck on barriers or other cars while spinning their wheels would have thick clumps hanging from common spray areas (front/back of the drive wheels).

Tip: A light dusting of regular brown with a very light coat of flat black replicates this well if you are lookign for a 'wet look.' Hold the flat black 8-12 inches away and let the pigment fall on the car versus spraying it... It gives a more random look of the stonedust

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JUDGES

Right now, I have recruited two regular derby runners from New York to judge this event. They will be following the above score sheet. I will not be judging at this point, nor do I intend to build (just seems like the right thing to do right now).

Paul S. is a regular runner here in Seneca County, NY and has been derbying for more than 20 years. Brian T. is a past Seneca County Champion, huge mopar fanatic, regular top-fiver in Waterloo and has also won in Brewerton, NY and has qualified for the New York State Fair Championship.

Judges assigned to the class will judge all cars in that class; the same eyes, the same standards... hope to keep a subjective project as even-keeled as possible.

I have another two/three people in the wings to jump in and help judge other classes (compacts, trucks, enduros) and they are in agreement with the above scoring process.

Intentions are to spread out the judging among other third-party folks to move it along and get your results up faster

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The $50 gift card is to MGM Slider Drive Shafts... Intially, the 1:1 derby gear creator Mike at MGM as offered a $50 gift card to the winner of the team derby.

Since we have changed to a three-car team, the overall winner of the team show (single highest scoring full size car) will take the $50 gift card toward gear at Mike's shop. Visit wecrash.com and look up MGM Slider Shafts for more details...

[Chris Marquart]

Got more good news on the sponsor front - I have some PR's to do!!!

FEED BACK TOPIC
Derby Tees has 5 shirts -- thinking 2nd and 3rd highest scoring full size cars get shirts, and winners of trucks, compacts and enduros get a shirt? Sound fair?

Or cash prize for 1st, tshirt to second in the undercard classes? Looking for feedback on this

Also: Ebay card worth $25 and Bandit Motorsports Prize Pack can be flip-flopped... What's worth the most where?





TENTATIVE PRIZE SCHEDULE
FULL SIZE TEAM DERBY
So we knew about MGM putting up a $50 gift card for the overall highest scoring full-size car...

Each member of the highest scoring team will win a car (model)!! Pics to come later.

Overall winner and each member of top team receive a certificate worth $10 toward one year of membership to DDLeague.org. That takes a basic membership from $10 to $2.

... 2nd and 3rd overall highest scoring full size cars get shirts from DerbyTees.com

Prize pack of resin parts (TBA) to most improved as voted on by sponsor

COMPACTS
Prize Pack from Bandit Motorsports worth $20
A T-shirt from DerbyTees.com
Winner will receive a certificate worth $10 toward one year of membership to DDLeague.org. That takes a basic membership from $10 to $2.

OUTLAW TRUCKS
$25 to win, DerbyTees.com Tshirt
Winner will receive a certificate worth $10 toward one year of membership to DDLeague.org. That takes a basic membership from $10 to $2.

ENDUROS
Ebay will be sponsoring the Enduro - $25 to win and a raffle car!
DerbyTees.com Tshirt

Prize pack of resin parts (TBA) to most improved as voted on by sponsor

... more sponsor inquiries are out there...

[Chris Marquart]

ALSO UPDATED POST RE: PRIZES ON PAGE 7


MGM SLIDER SHAFTS HARVEST HAVOC PRIZE SCHEDULE



Pics due by 11:59 PM Sept. 30. Results should be compiled by Oct 2-3. Most up-to-date entry list on page 9. Pre-entries can pull out -- MUST REMOVE NAME -- without penalty before Aug. 1. After Aug. 1, all pre-entries MUST SHOW or face suspension penalties. There is no deadline for registration, and preregistration is NOT required.


THIS STANDS AS TENTATIVE.


Otherwise, more inquiries are out there, but this is just about as concrete as we're going to get.


MGM TEAM FULL SIZE TEAM DERBY

TOP SCORING TEAM (Each member)
Model car
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

OVERALL TOP SCORING INDIVIDUAL CAR
$50 gift card to MGM Derby Products
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

OVERALL INDIVIDUAL SCORING - Second Place
DerbyTees shirt
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

OVERALL INDVIDUAL SCORING - Third Place
DerbyTees shirt
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

JPR Inc. MOST IMPROVED
Prize pack of parts for 2 cars (tires, wheels, bumpers, battery pack, fuel cell)
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org


*****
HIGH DOLLAR MOTORSPORTS OUTLAW TRUCKS
FIRST PLACE
$25
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

SECOND PLACE
DerbyTees TShirt
Vinyl numbers
Bandit Motorsports Prize Pack ($20 worth of parts)

JPR MOST IMPROVED
Wide Vtreads, parts to build a truck
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org


*****
DERBYTEES.COM-PACTS
FIRST PLACE
DerbyTees TShirt
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

SECOND PLACE
Bandit Motorsports Prize Pack ($10 worth of parts)
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

JPR MOST IMPROVED
Compact Vtreads, parts to build two cars
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org


*****
INSANE RACING ENDUROS

FIRST PLACE
$25 Ebay Gift Card & Raffle Car
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

SECOND PLACE
DerbyTees TShirt
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

MOST IMPROVED
Enduro specific resin parts to build two cars
Vinyl numbers
$10 toward membership to DDLeague.org

[kizzire]

[ShOwStOpPeR]

im ready lol stil a few things left to do hope 2 have 3 cars in it